His saiga conversion has the russian military surplus scope.įor causal shooting, I have a brake rotor at 200 yards hanging. Likely another 2 range trips.Ī fellow board member is consistently hitting a 8"x8" piece of metal at 300 yards. I want to test the gun reliability a bit more. It produced consistent 1" groups at 50 yards with golden tiger ammo ($2). I recently bought a saiga, a sporterized version of the AK47. My SKS get 2-3" groups with inferior iron sights. My friend bought an AR assembled from US military parts. Any gun assembled from worn used parts will not be reliable. I would say a 45-70 lever gun would be pretty cool, and do the job, and u wouldn't look like a swat ninja, but again, not semi auto, low capacity, expensive ammo ect,ĪK are relaitvely accurate.
#45 70 THUMPER FULL#
I think a M1A socom would really do this idea justice,super power and range yet still carbine length,ĩmm is not powerful enough unless you have a full auto or your using hollowpoints, and i'm not sure of reliability of hollowpoints in current rifles chambered in 9mm,ie 9mm AR's, century sterling, keltec folding rifle ect.ġ0 mm is an excellent choice, but no one makes any carbines in this caliber, and again, 10mm is scarce and hard to stock up on.Ī 45 carbine is cool, but no one makes one that is High capacity,u might as well carry an M4,Marlin's camp carbine in 45 was a problem gun, broke often.
450 bushmaster and 458 socom are cool, but none of us can afford to stockpile a decent amount of ammunition for a survival situation, never mind spare parts, I don't think a perfect "thumper" rifle exists. Loads using slow burning powders maximize performance in both short and long barrels, with one published load generating 1,500 ft/s (460 m/s) from a revolver, and 1,625 ft/s (495 m/s) from a carbine with a 240-grain (16 g) bullet. Tests with various ammunition in the Ruger Deerfield yielded a 100 yard (90 m) velocity of over 1,300 ft/s (400 m/s) with a 240-grain (16 g) bullet, comparable to the muzzle velocity out of a revolver. With significantly longer barrels than revolvers, carbines will generate a significantly higher velocity than a revolver loaded with the same ammunition. The lever-action Marlin Model 1894, Ruger Deerfield, and many other firearms are currently available in this caliber. 44 Magnum is sufficiently powerful for medium-sized game, yet fits easily into a compact, lightweight package. Loads using slow burning powders maximize performance in both short and long barrels, with one published load generating 1,500 ft/s (460 m/s) from a revolver, and 1,625 ft/s (495 m/s) from a carbine with a 240-grain (16 g) bullet."Īs a rifle or carbine cartridge the. 458×2 would feed from an AICS without modification but it's more of a fun project."As a rifle or carbine cartridge the. So my question is would there be a better 458 subsonic caliber more suitable than. This is what I'm getting from quickload using Barnes 450gr 458×1.5 would work as well for a dedicated subsonic thumper since it seems like they built these in vietnam but haven't found as much info for sub loads as. Not a whole lot of information available, it also seems like. Almost perfect case fill with VV TinStar which is very similar to Trailboss but less dense but N105 or N110 could also be used. Uses his Tikka mag bolt face and could simply swap the bolt stop to go from long to short action He's got a lathe so making the brass should be relatively easy 458×2-inch American in a 1:10 twist for the Hornady 410 SubX or the Barnes 450-500gr. He's already setting up a WTO Switchlug Tikka off the mag bolt face for his 7-6.5PRC and would like to switch barrel to a 12.5in thumper
So a gunsmith good friend of mine wants to work on a fun 458 dedicated subsonic thumper.
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